"Is it any surprise that the public regard politicians as liars when the Lib Dems behave like this"?

Date: Mon 20th February 2012
7.15 pm. AT THE
Riviera International Centre, Chestnut Avenue,
Torquay TQ2 5LZ
7.15 pm. Monday 20 th February 2012
You are invited to an evening with the most charismatic and plain speaking politician in British and European politics. At a special public meeting Nigel Farage will be explaining why it is time for Britain to leave the European Union. He will tell you:
Why we can no longer afford to subsidise the wasteful and corrupt EU.
How the EU is destabilising the world economy.
Why Westminster no longer governs Britain.
How the unelected European Commission came to be our real government.
Why you have to join the fight to save our Country.
PUBLIC MEETING - No need to book, just turn up.
PARKING CHARGES HAVE BEEN SUSPENDED
THE BAR WILL BE OPEN SELLING A RANGE OF HOT AND COLD DRINKS
This event is being organised by the Torbay & Totnes branch of the United Kingdom Independence Party (UKIP).

Graham Booth
David Challice
UKIP Head Office
For many years Graham was the face, the only face of UKIP in the South West of England. Without his involvement, energy and his unstinting financial support for the party, UKIP would not have been the force in the South West it was and is today.
On a personal note, over the past 13 years, I have travelled thousands of miles with Graham; all over the British Isles and beyond in his tireless pursuit of one aim - namely the return to Britain of self determination. In that endeavour he never wavered. He was a staunch and loyal friend and he will be sadly missed both by the party and by the thousands of people whose lives he touched.
Our condolences go to Pam and the family.
Trevor Colman
UKIP South West MEP
Graham was a personal friend. I first met him some 20 years ago at the Torbay Astronomical society as we shared an interest in the subject.
Soon Graham was writing letters to our local paper on the subject of the EU and I found myself defending Graham against pro EU letter writers, the next thing I find myself delivering leaflets with Graham and the rest they say is history.
My wife and I are totally devastated by his passing, it seems only yesterday that we were at his house for the last time wishing him well for the forthcoming operation that he was about to have. We shall sorely miss him.
Ian Walsh
Chairman of Torbay and Totnes UKIP
November 2nd, 2011 20:12
The main parties’ cosy
alliance is about to be blown apart by Nigel Farage’s Eurosceptics
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peteroborne/100115144/as-the-landscape-starts-to-shift-ukip-can-create-political-havoc/
YouGov poll showing that support for Farage’s party had crept up to 7 per cent – just one point fewer than the Liberal Democrats
The modern history of the Conservative Party has been poorly understood, mainly because it has been written by the winner – the modernising faction that undermined the leadership of William Hague and Iain Duncan Smith before seizing control after the 2005 election defeat.
These modernisers like to portray recent Tory history as a victory for change, pragmatism, progress and sanity. But this relentlessly optimistic account ignores the central truth: the Conservative Party formally split in the decade that followed the political assassination of Margaret Thatcher in 1990.
The first manifestation of this split was the creation of the Anti-Federalist League by the distinguished historian Alan Sked in 1991, at just the time that the Maastricht Treaty was signed. The decision to deprive eight Conservative MPs of the whip in the mid-1990s was another significant moment. Sir James Goldsmith’s Referendum Party took the disintegration process one stage further.
Sir James was far more successful than is widely appreciated, and forced the Conservative government to pledge a referendum on future European treaty changes. He also sucked away many Tory activists. When the Referendum Party folded after his death the following year, these activists tended not to return to the Conservatives. Many of them gave their loyalty to Ukip, the protest party led by Nigel Farage which now campaigns for Britain to leave the European Union.
In contrast to the racist BNP, which tends to attract former Labour supporters, Ukip is in reality the Conservative Party in exile. Many of its senior members wear covert coats and trilbies, making them look like off-duty cavalry officers. They are fiercely patriotic and independent.
Farage himself is a very jolly chap who smokes, drinks and occasionally gets into minor trouble. He is instantly recognisable as the kind of man who would have served loyally in the post-war Conservative Party and would have been popular with opposition parties. He is one of the relatively few politicians I actually look forward to meeting. Indeed, Mr Farage, who abandoned the Tories on the day that Margaret Thatcher quit as party leader, is entirely representative of his membership, many of whom are small businessmen, or served in the Armed Forces, and are extremely public-spirited.
It was widely noted that party activists were heavily outnumbered by lobbyists at this year’s Conservative conference. One of the reasons was that so many Tory activists have gone off to join Ukip. Practically all of its supporters were instinctively at home in the party of Margaret Thatcher. A steady trickle of former Tory grandees have defected to Mr Farage’s party: Alexander Hesketh, the former treasurer and chief whip in the House of Lords, is the most recent.
If a Left-wing party had reached Ukip’s size and consequence, the media would be fascinated. But, because of its old-fashioned and decidedly provincial approach, it has been practically ignored. In the 2004 European elections, the party gained a sensational 16 per cent of the vote. Had it been the Greens or the Communists that had pulled off this feat, the BBC would have gone crazy. Instead it chose not to mention this event, coolly classifying Ukip as “other”.
For the metropolitan elite, the party scarcely exists. This is why last Sunday’s YouGov poll showing that support for Farage’s party had crept up to 7 per cent – just one point fewer than the Liberal Democrats – gained no coverage. But the significance of this is very great. I believe that Ukip is about to take over from the Lib Dems as Britain’s third largest political party.
The Lib Dems are finished for the foreseeable future – the invariable fate of the smaller party in a coalition government. They will be fortunate to retain a dozen seats at the next general election. Meanwhile, Ukip will probably overtake them in the polls over the coming months, most likely pulling well ahead as the general election approaches. The European elections, due in two and a half years’ time, will provide an important test: my guess is that Ukip will perform very strongly, while the Lib Dems will be all but wiped out.
It is becoming painfully apparent that Paddy Ashdown and Charles Kennedy made a historic mistake at the end of the last century. Had the Lib Dems then made the decision to reflect popular opinion and challenge the European Union, they could have been a genuinely radical party, capable of confronting head-on and overtaking their two main rivals. Instead (to the despair of several of their MPs), they timidly chose to become a voice of the European machine in Brussels, meaning they became part of the consensus and were never able to make the breakthrough they wanted.
As a result of this failure of nerve and vision, Britain’s political architecture is about to be transformed. Since the Second World War, our third national party has been on the Left. This has meant that Conservative governments have often been pulled towards the centre, while Labour governments have had crucial cover. We are now moving towards a new era, in which the most significant third force may be on the Right.
The consequences of this are, at this stage, hard to predict. It is possible that Ukip may develop into a rebellious third party, like Jean-Marie Le Pen’s Front National in France, but this is unlikely: Le Pen’s party was semi-fascist, and Ukip seems too fundamentally British, conservative and decent to go down that frightening route. Furthermore, our electoral system holds back Ukip, just as it does the Lib Dems. Though it is easier now to imagine the former surging to victory in a by-election, with the latter extinguished as a vehicle for protest votes, it is virtually inconceivable that Mr Farage’s party can win parliamentary seats at the next general election.
But Ukip can still exercise a determining influence. The strength of its national support means that it holds the future of scores of Tory MPs in its hands. By running a candidate in a marginal seat, it can deprive the Tories of a few thousand votes, more than enough to cause him or her to lose – indeed, one Tory, David Heathcoat-Amory, ironically himself a Eurosceptic, blames Ukip for his loss in the 2010 election.
Meanwhile, the party can throw its weight behind Tory candidates fighting for their lives against Lib Dem or Labour rivals. But in return, of course, it is entitled to demand a price and insist that those candidates pursue strong anti-European policies. This ability to determine or affect the result in individual constituencies means that Ukip can intervene dramatically in the Tory civil war over Europe which broke out after last week’s Commons vote. It can terminate the careers of ministers and loyal backbenchers, while throwing a lifeline to rebels.
Ukip’s strength is very easy to explain. The leadership of the three mainstream parties have made an error. They are determined to cleave to the centre ground. Ukip alone has the courage to stand outside this cosy alliance and to cause havoc. Meanwhile, it goes without saying that a Tory leader can never win an election so long as the broader Conservative movement is so painfully split.
By
Simon Heffer
Last updated at 11:48 AM on 29th October 2011
See here.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2054839/The-cynical-lie-leaving-EU-destroy-Britain.html
You know how the EU makes you keep
voting until they get the right answer???
Sign the petition.....Again!
https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/356
Monday, 24th October 2011
Following the debate on the EU Referendum motion, UKIP Leader Nigel Farage said the electorate should be unforgiving.
"Defeat was inevitable given that MPs knew full well how their leaders wanted them to vote." Mr Farage said.
"However 111 is a healthy figure that should send a clear message to David Cameron and the other party leaders.
"Today was a bad day for Britain as the people of the UK have been denied the referendum they so desperately crave.
"Poll after poll shows the people either want out of the EU or to radically change the UK's relationship with the EU.
"Tonight the UK's political elite has snatched that opportunity away from them and denied people a vote.
"We should not forgive them."
'Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me'
TO ALL THOSE TORBAY CONSERVATIVES AND CONSERVATIVE VOTERS, WHOSE DOORS WE (UKIP), KNOCKED ON PRIOR
TO THE LAST ELECTION (TO BE TOLD OVER AND OVER). THAT
"I WOULD GIVE UKIP OUR VOTE, BUT CAMERON HAS GIVEN HIS 'CAST IRON GUARANTEE OF A REFERENDUM'... AND FURTHER,
HAS SAID HE 'WILL NOT LET MATTERS REST'. I BELIEVE HIM... JUST WAIT AND SEE."
WELL YOU WAITED... AND HE RENEGED JUST AS WE (UKIP) TOLD YOU THAT HE WOULD (SEE VIDEO BELOW)
TODAY, WITH MORE AND MORE NEWSPAPERS COMING ON 'OUR SIDE', AND WITH MORE THAN HALF OF THE POPULATION WANTING OUT OF THE EU,
NOW IS THE TIME FOR CONSERVATIVE EURO SCEPTICS* TO HAVE THE COURAGE TO QUIT
AND PUT YOUR COUNTRY BEFORE YOUR PARTY,
No Beating about the bush, Let us be a Darn sight clearer to you than Cameron will ever be.
CAMERON MISLED YOU TO GET YOUR VOTE, AND THEN HE DUMPED YOU.
JOIN US...
(*And LABOUR AND LIB DEM'S TOO)
By James Delingpole (Daily Telegraph Oct 19th)
"It requires real talent and serious effort to become the worst Tory prime minister in history"
"But Dave, I salute you. Today you have managed it with the most pointless, spiteful, vindictive, bullying
absurd directive so far in your already swollen catalogue of disasters as Prime Minister"
. To be honest, I never thought Cameron had it in him. I thought: "Well maybe they're right, all those Tory "insiders" who tap the sides of their noses knowingly and say: 'Don't you worry.
He knows what he's doing. He's just positioning himself, that's all. Deep down he's a true blue Eurosceptic small state Tory through and through." And after that, I thought: "I mean however bad he does get,
he's never going to be a match in sheer bloody awfulness for the chippy, asexual sailor who first set our course for the rocks clearly marked Euro Hell Oblivion, all the while reassuring his nervous crew,
"No they're not rocks at all. They're actually a really deep, safe channel which just looks like rocks but is in fact an optical illusion.
A special, magic deep channel which will also end wars and make us all richer and give us more fish than ever before."
But Dave, I salute you. Today you have managed it with the most pointless, spiteful, vindictive, bullying absurd directive so far in your already swollen catalogue of disasters as Prime Minister.
Even as MPs agreed to hold a Commons vote on a referendum, government sources made clear that the Tories would be whipped to vote against a poll.
Mr Cameron's decision to impose a three-line whip has angered many MPs, since the vote was called under rules the Coalition promised would give backbenchers more freedom.
Not only will this decision needlessly alienate some of the most talented up-and-coming Conservative MPs, from Douglas Carswell and Steve Baker to Priti Patel, but it will confirm to what little of the traditional
Tory constituency which hasn't already deserted to UKIP that Cameron's new, "detoxed" principle-free Conservative party is no longer capable of representing their interests in any way whatsoever.
Also, of course, it will provide the most splendiferous free gift both to Nigel Farage and to Dave's old school chum Boris who, not unreasonably, is positioning himself rather more sensibly on the forthcoming Eurogeddon.
Mr Johnson told a Westminster lunch:
"I think it would be absolutely crazy to decide the solution to the eurozone crisis is to intensify fiscal union and try to create an economic government of Europe. I really can't see for the life of me how that is going to work."
But don't let's allow Boris to steal Dave's thunder on this, of all days, Dave's very special day:
The day he finally got the title of the Worst Tory Prime Minister in British history.
By Alex Singelton, Daily Mail David Cameron's EU three line whip is a political blunder that
will help UKIP "Monday will cause a flood of defections from the Tory
grassroots to UKIP. The Conservative rank and file have known for a long time
that UKIP is more to their taste than their own party, but
many have stuck loyally with their party". What was the Prime Minister thinking? His decision to impose a
three-line whip on the motion, before Parliament on Monday, calling for an EU
referendum, is a terrible blunder. It was a wholly unnecessary move, as the motion would be
unlikely to pass through Parliament anyway, as the Lib Dem and Labour parties
are opposed to it. And even it did get passed, the motion wouldn't be binding on
the Government. It will antagonise the more eurosceptic members of the
Conservative backbenches, a third of whom are set to rebel on Monday. It will
alienate the public, who will see it as the typical behaviour of our out-of-touch political class.
And, perhaps most importantly of all, it will anger Tory party members. David Cameron will now have serious trouble getting activists
out to canvass at the next General Election. The party's membership has already
collapsed during his Heathite leadership. Tens of thousands of life-long Conservatives have been
sufficiently fed up with his appeasement of Islington liberal agenda to tear up
their membership cards. Monday will cause a flood of defections from the Tory
grassroots to UKIP. The Conservative rank and file have known for a long time
that UKIP is more to their taste than their own party, but many have stuck loyally with their party. They will now be wondering if there is a point in showing
loyalty to a party that, on the most important issue facing Britain, has
betrayed them.
And of course, The Lib Dems ......
By Alex Singelton, Daily Mail
"Is it any surprise that the public regard politicians as liars when the Lib Dems behave like this"?
et tu Labour !!!
(Just to make it a full set of three)
From the Daily mail Oct.22nd
Ed Miliband will order Labour MPs to oppose vote
But Labour face divisions too as a senior MP vows to defy the order
Meanwhile, the row is set to cause ructions within Labour ranks as well, a senior MP warned today.
Graham Stringer accused leader Ed Miliband of
making a 'mistake' by subjecting the party to a three-line whip on Monday's
vote.
The former Labour whip said he will defy the order for MPs to oppose the proposals, arguing it was time people were 'given a choice'.
Mr Miliband's claims a national poll on the issue will be a 'distraction' at a time when the UK should be focused on the economy.
LABOUR leader Ed Miliband is facing a rebellion by up to 30 of his own backbenchers after ordering his MPs to oppose the proposal for a European Union referendum in next week’s Commons vote.
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/278728/Labour-fury-at-Ed-Miliband-blunder-over-EU-referendum/
Daily Mail (Wed. 3rd Oct.)
Cameron 'weasel words' under fire as Tories demand
referendum on EU
"Senior Tories accused David Cameron
yesterday of using ‘weasel words’ to duck a referendum on Europe".
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2044931/David-Cameron-weasel-words-Tories-demand-referendum-EU.html
"A YouGov poll yesterday made clear the strength of public feeling over Britain’s EU membership. The poll found
that 68 per cent of those who voted Tory at the last election want Britain to leave the EU.
and 74 per cent of Tory voters want a referendum on Britain’s membership of Europe".
See http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/275155/Victory-in-a-bid-to-quit-EU/
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Torbay UKIP
Congratulations To Torbay Councillor Julien Parrott who has made History by becoming the bays first UKIP councillor. He came FIRST In Ellacombe Ward.
Also A great result for fellow Torbay UKIP candidates Jen Walsh, Gary Booth and Janet Hunt with a large increase in votes for UKIP.

UKIP Councillor for Ellacombe Torquay, Julien Parrot
Monday, 16th May 2011
Paul Oakley a London barrister, former Young Conservative Chairman for London and Parliamentary candidate joined UKIP on Saturday at the 'Rally Against Debt'.
In a barnstorming impromptu speech he renounced his Tory Party membership and handed Nigel Farage his first year's subscription,
PAUL OAKLEY: "There are many, many decent Tory members
who have the same concerns about their party. They must understand that the
current Conservative
leadership will never listen to them.
Don’t just leave the Tories as tens of thousands have already done. Join UKIP instead"!
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